Talk:Simon Dallow

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I dont understand why what im including is inappropriately unbalanced. His was a major mistake and thus readers should be able to be informed of it. Sure he has performed his job in other aspects thats why he has that job and readers would know that, they may not know of this incident for example until they read this entry. By saying its unbalanced because there is not a lot of material included which states he has performed his job as expected by its description would mean that all articles on people a full of trite to balance a major event such as this ,which made the Herald for instance.I cant find other referenced material with a NPOV which states he has done his job outstandingly in contrast. I dont consider it correct that wikipedia expects to only write of significant events in individuals careers if you can find enough material of low importance to seem to contrast it even though that material may not exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oystergannet (talk • contribs) 05:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 01:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copy from TVNZ?

The stuff about the stock-market crash etc. sounds very like TVNZ's profile of him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tshiels1 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous Broadcasting

I dont understand why what im including is inappropriately unbalanced. His was a major mistake and thus readers should be able to be informed of it. Sure he has performed his job in other aspects thats why he has that job and readers would know that, they may not know of this incident for example until they read this entry. By saying its unbalanced because there is not a lot of material included which states he has performed his job as expected by its description would mean that all articles on people a full of trite to balance a major event such as this ,which made the Herald for instance.I cant find other referenced material with a NPOV which states he has done his job outstandingly in contrast. I dont consider it correct that wikipedia expects to only write of significant events in individuals careers if you can find enough material of low importance to seem to contrast it even though that material may not exist.Oystergannet (talk) 05:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As it says at the top of the page, this article falls under WP:BLP, which has "must adhere strictly to NPOV". Highlighting a gaffe in such a short article is against BLP, whether it was your intention or not it looks disparaging. If you want to write about him I'm sure there's a number of notable events he's covered, and there's nothing on his career history. XLerate (talk) 06:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It does adhere to those guidelines. Which one does it not? Verifiable-Reference provided Neutral: Find another referenced NPOV on his work and enter that then- the point is there isnt any. This mess up is the only notable part of his career to date No original work: Facts published by Herald a reputable source. Can you provide any neutral referenced sources? I think one news may of won a qantas award one year would that satisfy your (inappropriate) need to have something lovely written about him?Oystergannet (talk) 06:54, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You edit didn't adhere to the WP:NPOV policy, which excludes "something lovely" as well. It's untrue to say there's nothing else - he went to Christchurch to cover the 2010 Canterbury earthquake for example. The NZ Herald has about 211 articles[1], Stuff 46[2]. XLerate (talk) 07:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correct he did go to Christchurch- isn't that what a broadcaster normally does and is thus not significant? But presenting an article entirely wrong is that normal practice or is it not a normal occurence and thus significant? Oystergannet (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

257 articles from those two sources, picking just one which didn't go well is never going to be a balanced representation. It's not the most significant event in his career, that's your opinion. XLerate (talk) 01:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes 257 articles including many entertainment pieces noting he married a television presenter are irrelevant. How many other presenters have presented an article on a electoral system and given entirely the wrong description? I guess you dont know because if its not allowed to be written up then people are not informed. Its not my opinion thats its the most significant thing in his career that matters it is for the readers of wikipedia to decide that and you are denying them the opportunity of doing that as you dont think its fair to criticise as thats unbalanced. Why dont you include referenced points of what you consder are representative of his career and i will include my point? That would surely achieve enough material for readers to use their own discretion on top of the fact he is still employed as a broadcaster.Oystergannet (talk) 05:57, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited your comment above to remove a BLP violation. He's not beyond criticism but you want to add only criticism and that's the issue. If you want to write about his career then do so, strictly adhering to NPOV. XLerate (talk) 06:36, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its not criticism its just a statement of fact about what happened. I cant find anything of note to write about his career that is not already included in this article. Can you suggest anything?Oystergannet (talk) 08:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xlerate have you found any NPOV articles showing that Mr Dallow has done anything significant in his career to balance with this incident from him or am i thus correct that this is the only noteable event in his career? You have had a week virtually to come back with a NPOV article, seems you cant.Oystergannet (talk) 04:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No that is a wrong assumption. If you want to write a balanced section on his career then you will need to do your own research. How many of the 257 articles have you checked so far? XLerate (talk) 08:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you getting 257 articles from? Oystergannet (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC) Xerate where are these 257 articles? You have had weeks to show your evidence- are you confabulating?Oystergannet (talk) 06:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look further up this discussion, 07:53, 1 October 2010. XLerate (talk) 06:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did that; they were almost unanimously all irrelevant ones about him in entertainment type articles or that he had covered a specific story as per job description. There were a couple that he was part of One News which was award winning at Qantas Media Awards. I can add that to contrast his unique error he did regarding broadcasting the wrong electoral system but I refuse to include ones saying he covered a specific job as per what hes paid to do or entertainment ones about him and his ex wife etc. 122.61.18.214 (talk) 18:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]